diff --git a/src/fragment_store/internal_mfs_contexts.cpp b/src/fragment_store/internal_mfs_contexts.cpp
index a07ce4cd..cadb952c 100644
--- a/src/fragment_store/internal_mfs_contexts.cpp
+++ b/src/fragment_store/internal_mfs_contexts.cpp
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ static bool isLess(const std::vector<uint8_t>& lhs, const std::vector<uint8_t>&
 }
 
 bool Message::Contexts::ContactFragments::insert(ObjectHandle frag) {
-	if (frags.contains(frag)) {
+	if (sorted_frags.contains(frag)) {
 		return false;
 	}
 
@@ -85,22 +85,22 @@ bool Message::Contexts::ContactFragments::insert(ObjectHandle frag) {
 		sorted_end.insert(pos, frag);
 	}
 
-	frags.emplace(frag, InternalEntry{begin_index, end_index});
+	sorted_frags.emplace(frag, InternalEntry{begin_index, end_index});
 
 	// now adjust all indicies of fragments coming after the insert position
 	for (size_t i = begin_index + 1; i < sorted_begin.size(); i++) {
-		frags.at(sorted_begin[i]).i_b = i;
+		sorted_frags.at(sorted_begin[i]).i_b = i;
 	}
 	for (size_t i = end_index + 1; i < sorted_end.size(); i++) {
-		frags.at(sorted_end[i]).i_e = i;
+		sorted_frags.at(sorted_end[i]).i_e = i;
 	}
 
 	return true;
 }
 
 bool Message::Contexts::ContactFragments::erase(Object frag) {
-	auto frags_it = frags.find(frag);
-	if (frags_it == frags.end()) {
+	auto frags_it = sorted_frags.find(frag);
+	if (frags_it == sorted_frags.end()) {
 		return false;
 	}
 
@@ -110,7 +110,7 @@ bool Message::Contexts::ContactFragments::erase(Object frag) {
 	sorted_begin.erase(sorted_begin.begin() + frags_it->second.i_b);
 	sorted_end.erase(sorted_end.begin() + frags_it->second.i_e);
 
-	frags.erase(frags_it);
+	sorted_frags.erase(frags_it);
 
 	return true;
 }
@@ -118,8 +118,8 @@ bool Message::Contexts::ContactFragments::erase(Object frag) {
 Object Message::Contexts::ContactFragments::prev(Object frag) const {
 	// uses range begin to go back in time
 
-	auto it = frags.find(frag);
-	if (it == frags.end()) {
+	auto it = sorted_frags.find(frag);
+	if (it == sorted_frags.end()) {
 		return entt::null;
 	}
 
@@ -134,8 +134,8 @@ Object Message::Contexts::ContactFragments::prev(Object frag) const {
 Object Message::Contexts::ContactFragments::next(Object frag) const {
 	// uses range end to go forward in time
 
-	auto it = frags.find(frag);
-	if (it == frags.end()) {
+	auto it = sorted_frags.find(frag);
+	if (it == sorted_frags.end()) {
 		return entt::null;
 	}
 
diff --git a/src/fragment_store/internal_mfs_contexts.hpp b/src/fragment_store/internal_mfs_contexts.hpp
index 99aecd18..4283de8d 100644
--- a/src/fragment_store/internal_mfs_contexts.hpp
+++ b/src/fragment_store/internal_mfs_contexts.hpp
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ namespace Message::Contexts {
 			size_t i_b;
 			size_t i_e;
 		};
-		entt::dense_map<Object, InternalEntry> frags;
+		entt::dense_map<Object, InternalEntry> sorted_frags;
 
 		// add 2 sorted contact lists for both range begin and end
 		// TODO: adding and removing becomes expensive with enough frags, consider splitting or heap
diff --git a/src/fragment_store/message_fragment_store.cpp b/src/fragment_store/message_fragment_store.cpp
index 0d099655..72844328 100644
--- a/src/fragment_store/message_fragment_store.cpp
+++ b/src/fragment_store/message_fragment_store.cpp
@@ -5,6 +5,9 @@
 #include <solanaceae/object_store/serializer_json.hpp>
 
 #include "../json/message_components.hpp"
+#include "messages_meta_components.hpp"
+#include "nlohmann/json_fwd.hpp"
+#include "solanaceae/util/span.hpp"
 
 #include <solanaceae/util/utils.hpp>
 
@@ -55,7 +58,16 @@ static nlohmann::json loadFromStorageNJ(ObjectHandle oh) {
 		return false;
 	}
 
-	return nlohmann::json::parse(tmp_buffer, nullptr, false);
+	const auto obj_version = oh.get<ObjComp::MessagesVersion>().v;
+
+	if (obj_version == 1) {
+		return nlohmann::json::parse(tmp_buffer, nullptr, false);
+	} else if (obj_version == 2) {
+		return nlohmann::json::from_msgpack(tmp_buffer, true, false);
+	} else {
+		assert(false);
+		return {};
+	}
 }
 
 void MessageFragmentStore::handleMessage(const Message3Handle& m) {
@@ -228,13 +240,13 @@ void MessageFragmentStore::handleMessage(const Message3Handle& m) {
 		m.emplace_or_replace<Message::Components::Obj>(fragment_id);
 
 		// in this case we know the fragment needs an update
-		for (const auto& it : _fuid_save_queue) {
+		for (const auto& it : _frag_save_queue) {
 			if (it.id == fragment_id) {
 				// already in queue
 				return; // done
 			}
 		}
-		_fuid_save_queue.push_back({Message::getTimeMS(), {_os.registry(), fragment_id}, m.registry()});
+		_frag_save_queue.push_back({Message::getTimeMS(), {_os.registry(), fragment_id}, m.registry()});
 		return; // done
 	}
 
@@ -253,7 +265,7 @@ void MessageFragmentStore::handleMessage(const Message3Handle& m) {
 	if (fid_open.contains(msg_fh)) {
 		// TODO: dedup events
 		// TODO: cooldown per fragsave
-		_fuid_save_queue.push_back({Message::getTimeMS(), msg_fh, m.registry()});
+		_frag_save_queue.push_back({Message::getTimeMS(), msg_fh, m.registry()});
 		return;
 	}
 
@@ -269,7 +281,20 @@ void MessageFragmentStore::handleMessage(const Message3Handle& m) {
 // need update from frag
 void MessageFragmentStore::loadFragment(Message3Registry& reg, ObjectHandle fh) {
 	std::cout << "MFS: loadFragment\n";
-	const auto j = loadFromStorageNJ(fh);
+	// version HAS to be set, or we just fail
+	if (!fh.all_of<ObjComp::MessagesVersion>()) {
+		std::cerr << "MFS error: nope, object without version, cant load\n";
+		return;
+	}
+
+	nlohmann::json j;
+	const auto obj_version = fh.get<ObjComp::MessagesVersion>().v;
+	if (obj_version == 1 || obj_version == 2) {
+		j = loadFromStorageNJ(fh); // also handles version and json/msgpack
+	} else {
+		std::cerr << "MFS error: nope, object with unknown version, cant load\n";
+		return;
+	}
 
 	if (!j.is_array()) {
 		// wrong data
@@ -377,7 +402,7 @@ bool MessageFragmentStore::syncFragToStorage(ObjectHandle fh, Message3Registry&
 
 	// TODO: does every message have ts?
 	auto msg_view = reg.view<Message::Components::Timestamp>();
-	// we also assume all messages have fid
+	// we also assume all messages have an associated object
 	for (auto it = msg_view.rbegin(), it_end = msg_view.rend(); it != it_end; it++) {
 		const Message3 m = *it;
 
@@ -385,12 +410,13 @@ bool MessageFragmentStore::syncFragToStorage(ObjectHandle fh, Message3Registry&
 			continue;
 		}
 
-		// require msg for now
+		// filter: require msg for now
+		// this will be removed in the future
 		if (!reg.any_of<Message::Components::MessageText/*, Message::Components::Transfer::FileInfo*/>(m)) {
 			continue;
 		}
 
-		if (_fuid_save_queue.front().id != reg.get<Message::Components::Obj>(m).o) {
+		if (_frag_save_queue.front().id != reg.get<Message::Components::Obj>(m).o) {
 			continue; // not ours
 		}
 
@@ -430,13 +456,20 @@ bool MessageFragmentStore::syncFragToStorage(ObjectHandle fh, Message3Registry&
 
 	// we cant skip if array is empty (in theory it will not be empty later on)
 
-	// if save as binary
-	//nlohmann::json::to_msgpack(j);
-	auto j_dump = j.dump(2, ' ', true);
+	std::vector<uint8_t> data_to_save;
+	const auto obj_version = fh.get_or_emplace<ObjComp::MessagesVersion>().v;
+	if (obj_version == 1) {
+		auto j_dump = j.dump(2, ' ', true);
+		data_to_save = std::vector<uint8_t>(j_dump.cbegin(), j_dump.cend());
+	} else if (obj_version == 2) {
+		data_to_save = nlohmann::json::to_msgpack(j);
+	} else {
+		std::cerr << "MFS error: unknown object version\n";
+		assert(false);
+	}
 	assert(fh.all_of<ObjComp::Ephemeral::Backend>());
 	auto* backend = fh.get<ObjComp::Ephemeral::Backend>().ptr;
-	//if (_os.syncToStorage(fh, reinterpret_cast<const uint8_t*>(j_dump.data()), j_dump.size())) {
-	if (backend->write(fh, {reinterpret_cast<const uint8_t*>(j_dump.data()), j_dump.size()})) {
+	if (backend->write(fh, {reinterpret_cast<const uint8_t*>(data_to_save.data()), data_to_save.size()})) {
 		// TODO: make this better, should this be called on fail? should this be called before sync? (prob not)
 		_fs_ignore_event = true;
 		_os.throwEventUpdate(fh);
@@ -480,12 +513,12 @@ MessageFragmentStore::MessageFragmentStore(
 }
 
 MessageFragmentStore::~MessageFragmentStore(void) {
-	while (!_fuid_save_queue.empty()) {
-		auto fh = _fuid_save_queue.front().id;
-		auto* reg = _fuid_save_queue.front().reg;
+	while (!_frag_save_queue.empty()) {
+		auto fh = _frag_save_queue.front().id;
+		auto* reg = _frag_save_queue.front().reg;
 		assert(reg != nullptr);
 		syncFragToStorage(fh, *reg);
-		_fuid_save_queue.pop_front(); // pop unconditionally
+		_frag_save_queue.pop_front(); // pop unconditionally
 	}
 }
 
@@ -538,14 +571,14 @@ static bool rangeVisible(uint64_t range_begin, uint64_t range_end, const Message
 float MessageFragmentStore::tick(float) {
 	const auto ts_now = Message::getTimeMS();
 	// sync dirty fragments here
-	if (!_fuid_save_queue.empty()) {
+	if (!_frag_save_queue.empty()) {
 		// wait 10sec before saving
-		if (_fuid_save_queue.front().ts_since_dirty + 10*1000 <= ts_now) {
-			auto fh = _fuid_save_queue.front().id;
-			auto* reg = _fuid_save_queue.front().reg;
+		if (_frag_save_queue.front().ts_since_dirty + 10*1000 <= ts_now) {
+			auto fh = _frag_save_queue.front().id;
+			auto* reg = _frag_save_queue.front().reg;
 			assert(reg != nullptr);
 			if (syncFragToStorage(fh, *reg)) {
-				_fuid_save_queue.pop_front();
+				_frag_save_queue.pop_front();
 			}
 		}
 	}
@@ -612,13 +645,13 @@ float MessageFragmentStore::tick(float) {
 		// that is not already loaded !!
 		if (msg_reg->ctx().contains<Message::Contexts::ContactFragments>()) {
 			const auto& cf = msg_reg->ctx().get<Message::Contexts::ContactFragments>();
-			if (!cf.frags.empty()) {
+			if (!cf.sorted_frags.empty()) {
 				if (!msg_reg->ctx().contains<Message::Contexts::LoadedContactFragments>()) {
 					msg_reg->ctx().emplace<Message::Contexts::LoadedContactFragments>();
 				}
 				const auto& loaded_frags = msg_reg->ctx().get<Message::Contexts::LoadedContactFragments>().loaded_frags;
 
-				for (const auto& [fid, si] : msg_reg->ctx().get<Message::Contexts::ContactFragments>().frags) {
+				for (const auto& [fid, si] : msg_reg->ctx().get<Message::Contexts::ContactFragments>().sorted_frags) {
 					if (loaded_frags.contains(fid)) {
 						continue;
 					}
diff --git a/src/fragment_store/message_fragment_store.hpp b/src/fragment_store/message_fragment_store.hpp
index 2f13aca7..f7ec69f6 100644
--- a/src/fragment_store/message_fragment_store.hpp
+++ b/src/fragment_store/message_fragment_store.hpp
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ class MessageFragmentStore : public RegistryMessageModelEventI, public ObjectSto
 			ObjectHandle id;
 			Message3Registry* reg{nullptr};
 		};
-		std::deque<SaveQueueEntry> _fuid_save_queue;
+		std::deque<SaveQueueEntry> _frag_save_queue;
 
 		struct ECQueueEntry final {
 			ObjectHandle fid;
diff --git a/src/fragment_store/message_serializer.cpp b/src/fragment_store/message_serializer.cpp
index 35823e64..7b86c5ab 100644
--- a/src/fragment_store/message_serializer.cpp
+++ b/src/fragment_store/message_serializer.cpp
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
 #include "./message_serializer.hpp"
 
+#include <cstdint>
 #include <solanaceae/message3/components.hpp>
 #include <solanaceae/contact/components.hpp>
 
@@ -39,6 +40,7 @@ bool MessageSerializerCallbacks::component_get_json<Message::Components::Contact
 
 	return true;
 }
+
 template<>
 bool MessageSerializerCallbacks::component_emplace_or_replace_json<Message::Components::ContactFrom>(MessageSerializerCallbacks& msc, Handle h, const nlohmann::json& j) {
 	if (j.is_null()) {
@@ -47,7 +49,12 @@ bool MessageSerializerCallbacks::component_emplace_or_replace_json<Message::Comp
 		return true;
 	}
 
-	const std::vector<uint8_t> id = j.is_binary()?j:j["bytes"];
+	std::vector<uint8_t> id;
+	if (j.is_binary()) {
+		id = j.get_binary();
+	} else {
+		j["bytes"].get_to(id);
+	}
 
 	Contact3 other_c = findContactByID(msc.cr, id);
 	if (!msc.cr.valid(other_c)) {
@@ -83,6 +90,7 @@ bool MessageSerializerCallbacks::component_get_json<Message::Components::Contact
 
 	return true;
 }
+
 template<>
 bool MessageSerializerCallbacks::component_emplace_or_replace_json<Message::Components::ContactTo>(MessageSerializerCallbacks& msc, Handle h, const nlohmann::json& j) {
 	if (j.is_null()) {
@@ -91,7 +99,12 @@ bool MessageSerializerCallbacks::component_emplace_or_replace_json<Message::Comp
 		return true;
 	}
 
-	const std::vector<uint8_t> id = j.is_binary()?j:j["bytes"];
+	std::vector<uint8_t> id;
+	if (j.is_binary()) {
+		id = j.get_binary();
+	} else {
+		j["bytes"].get_to(id);
+	}
 
 	Contact3 other_c = findContactByID(msc.cr, id);
 	if (!msc.cr.valid(other_c)) {
@@ -105,3 +118,4 @@ bool MessageSerializerCallbacks::component_emplace_or_replace_json<Message::Comp
 	// TODO: should we return false if the contact is unknown??
 	return true;
 }
+
diff --git a/src/fragment_store/messages_meta_components.hpp b/src/fragment_store/messages_meta_components.hpp
index 03240535..6d95727f 100644
--- a/src/fragment_store/messages_meta_components.hpp
+++ b/src/fragment_store/messages_meta_components.hpp
@@ -6,7 +6,8 @@ namespace ObjectStore::Components {
 	struct MessagesVersion {
 		// messages Object version
 		// 1 -> text_json
-		uint16_t v {1};
+		// 2 -> msgpack
+		uint16_t v {2};
 	};
 
 	struct MessagesTSRange {